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Couple of Suikoden-goodie recs....

Someone's put together a Suikoden III manga moodtheme, for anyone looking to change theirs. I'm just slightly too attached to my Lunar moodtheme to change it (even if Lunar's not my primary fandom any more), but this is well done none the less, and I thought it worth the link.

Also, I've mentioned the existence of these to a couple of people before, but the embodiment of win apparently named Haswar2 has posted up most of the Japanese cutscenes from Suikoden V on YouTube. The voiceover still has its rough spots, but if you disliked the English dub, or just want to get a different perspective on what some of the characters might have sounded like, these are worth watching. Also, bear witness to the brilliance that is Euram's absolutely perfect overdramatic-narcissist-bishie voice, and... cringe slightly at the fact that the very literal katakanization* for "Lucretia" doesn't take into account that it's actually a name with an existing pronunciation, one that can in fact be transcribed into katakana (ru-ku-rii-sha, most likely). /dork, but come on, literally saying it "Lu-cre-ti-a" just sounds weird. XP

*possibly not actually a word


Been pondering doing that thing I was thinking a while ago, of putting up a blog just for observations on tiny elements of games (the background music in a particular level, the glint of light off a certain structure, etc.) that have just made me squee or otherwise stuck in my mind. Or maybe I'll just create a post series here for it. Either way, the idea still is in my mind, I just... haven't got around to it yet. XP

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seika
Mar. 10th, 2008 12:10 am (UTC)
Those mood themes are adorable. And I was liking them. Until I saw what that person's idea of "pleased" was, and now I'm just terrified. XD

(more seriously, they are very cute, and if I used mood themes I would definitely use them.)
eclective
Mar. 10th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC)
...I knew it was going to be a Luc icon. I just knew it when you said that. XD He has the most wrong array of "pleased" expressions in the manga, he just... does.
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eclective
Mar. 10th, 2008 03:58 am (UTC)
since I don't have a "hee hee hee" icon I'll just use this, it's creepy enough
Just wait until we get seirai in on this thread. Hee hee hee.

(Also, you haven't seen anything until you've seen multiple iterations of this:



in the same thread. XD)

Edited at 2008-03-10 03:59 am (UTC)
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eclective
Mar. 10th, 2008 05:01 am (UTC)
*uses the original icon just for added sanity-breakage XD*
...I've also just realised how creepy the Gizel icon looks right next to the Orihime leekspinning icon. XP
seika
Mar. 10th, 2008 04:59 am (UTC)
I also really don't understand "complacent." If that expression were a complacent one, it... what, how does that even exist. In the sense that how would the story even exist for there to be a manga of if that were a complacent expression. XD
eclective
Mar. 10th, 2008 05:08 am (UTC)
...hmm, maybe they didn't know what complacent meant? But yeah, when Luc's making any sort of face... or really just in general... he's about the furthest from complacent one can get.

(Aww, I kind of like the idea of an altverse where he's all laid-back and Juan-like and "yeah, whatever" with a blade of grass poking out of his mouth, though, and so the Destroyerz thing doesn't happen. Stars of Idleness are never actually very idle. ;)

Edited at 2008-03-10 05:09 am (UTC)
seika
Mar. 11th, 2008 12:00 am (UTC)
But yeah, when Luc's making any sort of face...

As opposed to when he's not?

...
wait, that would be, like... Current Luc! -____-

(Ack. Searching deviantart for "Current Luc" does not help me find that picture, although it does produce mainly pictures of him.)

Edited at 2008-03-11 12:00 am (UTC)
eclective
Mar. 11th, 2008 12:32 am (UTC)
As opposed to when he's not?

It's ten minutes later and this is still cracking me up. You win... well, the internet is taken, so have another Luc icon. XD

(Also, I read that as "does produce manly pictures of him."
seika
Mar. 14th, 2008 07:53 am (UTC)
I would be surprised if the internet produces any manly pictures of him-- I expect the results would be like those for Snowe, pretty much...
eclective
Mar. 14th, 2008 04:21 pm (UTC)
Well, it does get some results... just not really any relevant ones. (I know that's not quite what you meant, but I liked the idea that there would be some kind of metric by which we could measure this. XD)

Snowe is actually worse, I think. Luc gets emo, and often delicate, but Snowe gets "I am a wide-eyed chibi!" Considering Luc is a wide-eyed chibi, I'm actually surprised that there aren't nearly as many pictures of him as one going around. I suppose it's that Snowe has Hero4 to cling to and look puppyish at, whereas there's really no one for Luc to be chibi and weepy in contrast to (except maybe Leknaat, but that's not pairing-friendly enough for most fans).

Edited at 2008-03-14 04:21 pm (UTC)
seirai
Mar. 10th, 2008 01:50 pm (UTC)
::laughs:: That amuses me.

(posted mostly just to introduce another instance of this icon. =P)

seika
Mar. 10th, 2008 11:56 pm (UTC)
I think there aren't enough instances of this icon in this post. XD
eclective
Mar. 11th, 2008 12:18 am (UTC)
Woo-hoo!

(I was just about to type "...party at the Ceremonial Site!". But that would be wrong.)
seika
Mar. 14th, 2008 07:53 am (UTC)
There is, however, a party at the Ceremonial Site. Several, actually, since you have so many branches to explore.

Edited at 2008-03-14 07:53 am (UTC)
eclective
Mar. 14th, 2008 05:24 pm (UTC)
This is true! There's also a rather impressive live show by the Destroyerz, though most reviews found the content of it deeply disturbing and say they'd never want to see it again.
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eclective
Mar. 10th, 2008 04:08 am (UTC)
In my experience, Japanese voiceovers tend to do a lot better with voicing the cute characters and making them actually sound cute (rather than irritating) than English ones do, although this could just be a bias of having adapted to those sorts of voices; possibly to a native speaker they sound as unrealistic as portrayals of children as the English ones do. The flip-side of this seems to be that the serious, older characters also sound way too cute and young. (Squealing Lucretia. I'm not sure whether it's adorable or just odd.)
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eclective
Mar. 10th, 2008 04:59 am (UTC)
Actually, on rewatch, much more of a squeak than a squeal, really. It just has this incredibly... "I am five years old" overtone to it. (Specifically, when the Dahak gets rocked after Sialeeds brings down the dam.) But yeah, apart from that one moment, my general feeling was much the same as yours - surprise that she didn't have a lower voice. She always struck me as someone who Speaks Softly And Carries A Large Book Of Strategy - someone who's quietly confident, gentle-voiced, a little bit mischievous, but not giddy and giggly. A knowing kind of voice, I suppose.

(Could you find me a decent clip of either of those characters, perchance? I can't seem to find anything but AMVs when I search YouTube, and you probably have a better chance of knowing the eps they're in. I'm curious to see if they sound like I imagine Lucretia.)
seika
Mar. 10th, 2008 05:01 am (UTC)
Actually, voice analyses have shown that Japanese women have a greater amount of pitch variation in their speech than American women do, and this means that, in general, Japanese women simply have squealier-sounding voices because they are going up and down and all over the place, and it's something we parse as "particularly high" and "squealy" and "cute".
eclective
Mar. 10th, 2008 05:05 am (UTC)
Oh, wow! I had not seen that study. And yeah, it does seem like even Japanese women with voices that aren't ultra-high can launch into the squealy thing with disturbing ease, whereas it's really hard for most Westerners who don't naturally have high voices to go that high.
seika
Mar. 10th, 2008 06:12 am (UTC)
I learned it in school, so I don't know if the study is being circulated outside of, like, academic journals.
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