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Also, random thing: for a while I've been dithering about whether to watch the ~60 stars ending for Suikoden V on YouTube. Factors involved in my dithering include:

+ I do want to see all the endings, in general.
+ NEED MOAR SUIKODEN.
+ I'm a hapless sucker who seems to have some masochistic need to tearjerk myself more over this game. It's therapy, or something.
+ I'll probably never actually have the heart to do a miserable, defeatist ~60-star playthrough of a 60-hour-plus game just to see a painful Bad Ending. I'm not that much of a masochist.

- It's on YouTube, therefore it'll be cruddy quality compared to actually seeing it on a TV.
- It'll probably be painful and sad and I won't like it. (Yes, this contradicts point #3 above. I didn't say my masochism was consistent.)
- It might just suck, not in the ouchy way but in the "meh, that was just generally not worth it" way, and then I'll be disappointed.

So... how worth seeing is it, actually? How awful is it? And should I watch it on YouTube or attempt to play through the game again (not like I'm doing a Bad End playthrough any time soon) or just not see it at all and write myself some fanfic about the Prince and his happy family sitting around playing Mornington Crescent How The Crap Do You Get Out Of Sol-Falena Anyway* on a sugar high? THE VOTE IS YOURS.

*It's like Mornington Crescent, except no move which puts you within three stops of the exit to Sol-Falena is legal for at least thirty turns.

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luinied
Mar. 14th, 2008 06:13 am (UTC)
I haven't seen he 6X-127 star ending, but I understand that it's pretty similar to the ~60 star ending, except that instead of Georg and the Prince sailing off we simply have a brief shot of Sad Prince In Snow. So I imagine it's a bit sadder than just watching the sad ending you've already seen yet again, but probably not that much, at least if you're like me and think that the saddest part of that ending is the Prince holding up both Guardian Runes.
eclective
Mar. 14th, 2008 06:26 am (UTC)
Actually, I think the ending that tearjerked me the most was the good one... just because of seeing everyone back in the Rune, there with him and yet not at the same time, and the whole final shot that you have on your login screen, and all. But that's not to say it was the saddest, and that scene of the Prince with both the Runes is pretty awful, yes. (Also, I've never heard the term "Guardian Runes" before... where'd that come from? Am curious.)
luinied
Mar. 14th, 2008 06:32 am (UTC)
There are a lot of tearjerky things in the good ending, yeah, but I guess for me none of it can compare to the idea of the Prince losing Lyon. It's just... such a sad thing.

And hmm, I guess I'm not sure if "Guardian Runes" is ever used in the game, but it's definitely in the art book and on the soundtrack.
eclective
Mar. 14th, 2008 06:50 am (UTC)
I think I sort of... the way I reacted to the non-108 ending was as a downer, really. A downer, and something I'd known had been going to happen for a long time. It was deeply sad, which is part of why I think the 108 ending affected me more; because it was dramatic and not what I had been expecting (I mean, I was expecting that the gift of the 108 would be that you revived Lyon, but it was different from the original ending I'd known was going to happen when I was playing the first time, I suppose I mean), in contrast to that sadness. Hmm, I'm sort of not describing myself too well here, and I should probably just sleep, but... the 108 ending affected me because it was a contrast to most of the things that saddened me about the non-108 ending, and that made me realise how much those meant to me almost more than the non-108 ending did, because with the non-108 ending I'd had the feeling that those things would be happening for quite a while and my head sort of went, "...okay, it happened like I expected, that fails".

Also, I had not noticed that! *has artbook; needs to poke it.*
seika
Mar. 14th, 2008 08:14 am (UTC)
Actually, I think the ending that tearjerked me the most was the good one... just because of seeing everyone back in the Rune, there with him and yet not at the same time

Me, too. Omg. When I was listening to the soundtrack in my car, I kept tearing up just at the part where Arshtat reaches down to him, and when she embraces him, and then when Leknaat started speaking, because I remember just what happens just there at what part of the music, and it was all so intense.
eclective
Mar. 14th, 2008 05:27 pm (UTC)
I don't remember the scene in conjunction with the music that well, but I do definitely feel you. Listening to the late-game soundtrack always made me feel wobbly thereafter, too. *hugs*
seika
Mar. 15th, 2008 09:31 am (UTC)
Yeah, listening to it I go "ah, this is the part where... and this is where... and I can practically hear Leknaat's synthesizer-blurry voice here... and... aaaah, tear-fountain." Whereas Lyon's death itself, even in the non-108 ending, was so very expected that it was the one death I didn't even tear up at in the game.
eclective
Mar. 15th, 2008 10:25 am (UTC)
*nods* Agreed, even though I really like her.... it's kind of hard to convey exactly how I felt about it. It was that I expected it so much, and it felt... almost anti-cathartic. The whole end of that game the first time I played it did, in general. It was like, "okay, this is what I expected to happen. Yes, it's just as bad as I thought it would be. ...right then, well, that sucks. Sigh." It felt frustrating and wrong, but there was no opportunity for release with it; I think I just ended that game feeling really flat, which was in itself frustrating because I knew I did feel really intense about the characters but the ending hadn't provided me with any sort of release regarding them.

I wasn't even tearful about Sialeeds in the moment, actually. Sad, yes, but I couldn't cry about it (which always sucks). That came later, when I was able to reflect on it and think about it.

But yeah, the 108 ending was... everything that wasn't, and all full of what-could-have-beens with everyone in the Rune, and it was a lot of the bad stuff being undone, and even though I sort of expected that too (I knew that Lyon was going to come back, and all) it was still such a sharp contrast to what I'd internalised that it was very, very omg.

(Poor Leknaat. I really need to hear her in the Japanese, actually. And I'm not even sure those YouTube clips I linked to have one with her voice, which is failcat. She just... was not treated well in that game in general, between her voice and her outfit....)

Edited at 2008-03-15 10:26 am (UTC)
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